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7 Different Types of Gas Hot Water Systems

September 8, 2021

Mitchell Plumbing & Gas

7 Different Types of Gas Hot Water Systems

A gas hot water system is a water heater that uses natural gas or LPG (Liquefied Petroleum Gas) to heat water for residential and commercial hot water needs.

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Gas hot water system designs and features (some terms overlap)

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  1. Storage Tank Gas Water Heaters: Storage tank gas water heaters have an insulated tank that stores hot water ready for use. The system uses a gas burner located at the bottom of the tank to heat the water. When hot water is used, cold water enters the bottom of the tank and is heated. Available in sizes from 90L to 170L for domestic use. Good for households with moderate hot water demands. Provides mains pressure hot water. Takes up more space than instantaneous systems. Some heat loss occurs through the tank walls.
  2. Tankless Gas Water Heaters: Tankless gas water heaters, also known as instantaneous gas hot water systems, heat water only when needed without storing it. When you turn on a hot water tap, cold water flows through a heat exchanger that is warmed by a gas burner. Compact wall-mounted design saves space. No standby heat loss as water is only heated when needed. Endless supply of hot water (never runs out). More energy-efficient than storage systems. May struggle with multiple hot water demands simultaneously.
  3. Condensing Gas Water Heaters: Condensing gas hot water systems are a highly efficient type that captures heat from exhaust gases that would otherwise be wasted. This recovered heat is used to pre-heat the incoming cold water before it reaches the main heat exchanger. Compare the selected model’s declared performance and gas use. Any bill saving and payback depend on demand, current gas prices and the installed quote. Available in both storage and tankless models.
  4. Non-Condensing Gas Water Heaters: Non-condensing gas water heaters are the traditional type of gas hot water system. They vent exhaust gases directly outside without capturing the heat contained in these gases. More affordable upfront cost. Simpler design with fewer components. Easier installation process. Lower energy efficiency compared to condensing models. Operating costs depend on the model, demand and current gas prices.
  5. Hybrid Gas Water Heaters: Identify the exact hybrid configuration and its heating technologies. For example, solar thermal systems can use gas boosting; other combinations need model-specific confirmation. Gas consumption, costs and emissions depend on the actual technologies, controls and energy sources used. More complex installation. Any payback estimate depends on the installed quote, model performance, household demand and current energy prices.
  6. Continuous Flow Hot Water Systems: Continuous flow is another name for instantaneous or tankless heating. The selected model’s flow capacity, temperature rise and controls determine which household demands it can meet.
  7. Instantaneous Hot Water Heaters: Instantaneous, tankless and continuous flow describe on-demand heating. Models differ in rated capacity and installation requirements; the terminology alone does not establish size, number of outlets or energy efficiency.

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1. Storage Tank Gas Water Heaters

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Storage tank gas water heaters are traditional systems that heat and store water in an insulated tank, keeping it ready for use at any time. A gas burner located at the bottom of the tank heats the water to a preset temperature. When hot water is used, cold water enters the tank through a dip tube at the bottom while hot water is drawn from the top.

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These systems work on a simple principle: the thermostat monitors water temperature and activates the gas burner when it falls below the set level. The burner heats the water, and the process continues to maintain the desired temperature. A flue in the center of the tank vents combustion gases outside, while simultaneously transferring heat to the surrounding water.

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The average lifespan of a storage tank gas water heater is 10-15 years with proper maintenance compared to tankless systems that can last 20+ years. Regular maintenance, including checking the pressure relief valve and flushing the tank annually, can extend its lifespan.

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Compare gas storage models using their declared energy performance under equivalent test conditions. Include storage heat losses when estimating gas use. US UEF and ENERGY STAR information should not be treated as an Australian rating scale or as a universal conversion-efficiency percentage.

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The cost of installing a standard storage tank gas water heater includes the unit and professional installation. High-efficiency models can cost more. Annual maintenance costs are relatively low for professional servicing, which should include flushing the tank and checking valves and connections.

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Pros:

  • Lower upfront cost compared to tankless systems
  • Simpler installation, especially as a replacement for an existing tank system
  • Can supply multiple fixtures simultaneously without pressure drops
  • Less complicated to repair with more available service technicians

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Cons:

  • Higher energy consumption due to standby heat loss
  • Limited hot water supply based on tank capacity
  • Takes up more space than tankless alternatives
  • Gas storage systems are particularly inefficient in cold climates due to high heat loss at the point where the gas flame heats the tank 
  • Shorter lifespan than tankless models

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2. Tankless Gas Water Heaters

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Tankless gas water heaters, also known as instantaneous or continuous flow systems, heat water directly as it flows through the unit without storing it. When a hot water tap is turned on, cold water travels through a pipe into the unit where a gas burner heats it instantly via a heat exchanger.

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These systems operate on demand—they detect water flow when a hot water tap opens, which triggers the gas burner to ignite. The water circulates through the heat exchanger, where it's rapidly heated to the set temperature. Once the tap is closed, the unit shuts down, conserving energy when hot water isn't needed.

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The average lifespan of a tankless gas water heater is significantly longer than storage models, typically 20+ years with easily replaceable parts that may extend their life by many more years. Regular maintenance, including descaling to remove mineral buildup, is essential to maintain efficiency and longevity.

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Tankless gas systems avoid storage-tank heat losses, but actual energy use depends on the model and hot water demand. Compare Australian product data under equivalent test conditions rather than applying a US gallon-based savings estimate to every household.

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The cost of installing a tankless gas water heater includes the unit and professional installation. Installation costs can be higher if gas line upgrades or additional venting is required. Annual maintenance costs are primarily for descaling and checking gas connections.

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Pros:

  • Avoids storage-tank heat losses; energy and bill savings depend on the selected models and household demand 
  • Endless supply of hot water without the limitations of a tank
  • Compact design that saves valuable space
  • Longer lifespan with replaceable parts
  • More precise temperature control

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Cons:

  • Higher upfront purchase and installation costs
  • May require upgrading gas lines or venting systems
  • May not supply enough hot water for simultaneous, multiple uses in large households 
  • Requires both gas and electrical connections
  • Slightly longer wait time for hot water to reach fixtures

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3. Condensing Gas Water Heaters

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Condensing gas water heaters are advanced heating systems that maximize energy efficiency by capturing and utilizing heat from exhaust gases that would otherwise be wasted. These systems use a secondary heat exchanger to extract additional thermal energy from combustion gases, allowing them to achieve significantly higher efficiency ratings than conventional models.

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These systems work through a dual heat exchange process. The primary heat exchanger functions similarly to traditional gas water heaters, transferring heat from the burner flame directly to the water. What sets condensing models apart is the secondary heat exchanger, which captures heat from hot exhaust gases before they exit through the flue. As these gases cool below 55°C (131°F), water vapor in the exhaust condenses, releasing latent heat that is then transferred to incoming cold water, preheating it before it reaches the primary heat exchanger.

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The average lifespan of condensing gas water heaters is typically 15-20 years when properly maintained with annual professional servicing. While their more complex design with additional components might suggest a shorter lifespan, modern models use corrosion-resistant materials like stainless steel alloys to counteract the effects of acidic condensate, helping them last as long as or even longer than non-condensing models.

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Condensing systems recover additional heat from combustion exhaust. Compare the selected model’s declared performance using the same test method and hot water demand as alternatives. A generic UEF value is not a verified conversion percentage or household saving.

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The cost of installing a condensing gas water heater includes the unit and professional installation. Conventional gas-only heaters are not eligible for federal water-heater STCs. Maintenance costs reflect the need for regular professional servicing to ensure the condensate drain lines remain clear and heat exchangers function properly.

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Pros:

  • Recovers heat from combustion exhaust; check the model’s declared performance
  • Any operating-cost saving and payback depend on demand, gas prices and the installed quote
  • Reduced environmental impact with lower greenhouse gas emissions
  • Can use PVC or polypropylene venting materials as the exhaust is cooler, reducing installation costs
  • Higher flow rates available for larger households

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Cons:

  • Higher upfront purchase and installation costs
  • More complex design requiring professional installation
  • Requires a drain for condensate disposal
  • More frequent maintenance needed due to additional components
  • Takes up slightly more space due to the secondary heat exchanger

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4. Non-Condensing Gas Water Heaters

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Non-condensing gas water heaters are traditional gas-powered systems that use a single heat exchanger to transfer heat from the burner flame to the water without recovering heat from exhaust gases. These systems represent the conventional approach to gas water heating that has been used for decades.

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These systems operate with a straightforward design: cold water enters the heat exchanger where it's warmed by the gas burner's flame. The resulting hot exhaust gases, which can reach temperatures as high as 300-400°F (149-204°C), are vented directly outside through a flue system. Unlike condensing models, these systems do not attempt to capture the significant heat energy contained in these gases, which accounts for their lower efficiency.

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The average lifespan of non-condensing gas water heaters is typically 15-20 years, which is similar to condensing models, when properly maintained. Their simpler design with fewer components can mean fewer failure points, but this advantage is somewhat offset by the hotter operating temperatures that may cause more wear on parts over time.

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Non-condensing systems do not recover the additional heat captured by a condensing heat exchanger. Compare the actual models’ declared performance and expected gas use rather than assigning one UEF or efficiency percentage to the whole category.

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The cost of installing a non-condensing gas water heater includes the unit and professional installation. While the upfront cost is lower, the venting system requires more expensive materials like stainless steel due to the higher temperature of exhaust gases. Annual maintenance costs are typically lower than condensing models due to the simpler design.

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Pros:

  • Lower upfront purchase and installation costs
  • Simpler design with fewer components that may require repair
  • Slightly smaller size and lighter weight due to single heat exchanger
  • Proven reliability with decades of real-world performance
  • Less complex maintenance requirements

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Cons:

  • Check declared energy performance for the exact non-condensing model
  • Lifetime operating costs depend on demand, gas prices and the selected model
  • No exhaust-heat recovery; actual energy consumption depends on the model and demand
  • Requires more expensive metal venting materials due to hotter exhaust
  • Greater environmental impact with higher carbon emissions
  • Conventional gas-only heaters do not qualify for federal water-heater STCs

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5. Hybrid Gas Water Heaters

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The term hybrid can describe different system arrangements. Identify the exact model and heating technologies rather than assuming that every hybrid gas system contains a heat pump or has the same efficiency.

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A combined system may use solar thermal collectors with gas boosting or another specified arrangement. Check which energy sources it uses, how its controls switch between them, and how much backup heating is expected for the household.

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The average lifespan of hybrid gas water heaters typically ranges from 13 to 15 years, which is longer than conventional electric water heaters that usually last 8 to 12 years. With proper maintenance, including annual professional servicing and regular system checks, these systems can often reach the upper end of their expected lifespan, providing reliable service for many years.

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Assess a hybrid system using the energy consumed by all of its heating modes. Performance depends on the actual technologies, controls, local conditions and household demand; the word hybrid does not establish a UEF, fixed percentage saving or lower bill.

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The cost of installing a hybrid gas water heater includes the unit and professional installation. Gas-only hybrid storage and instantaneous heaters do not qualify for federal water-heater STCs. Annual maintenance costs reflect the more complex technology that requires professional servicing to ensure optimal performance.

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Pros:

  • Compare all heating modes using equivalent household demand and test conditions
  • Running-cost savings, if any, need a model-specific estimate using current energy prices
  • Reduced environmental impact with lower greenhouse gas emissions
  • Versatile operation that adjusts to demand and environmental conditions
  • Check the exact technology: gas-only heaters do not qualify for federal water-heater STCs

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Cons:

  • Higher upfront purchase and installation costs
  • More complex system with additional components that may require repair
  • Requires adequate space for installation with proper ventilation
  • Performance can be affected by ambient air temperature and humidity
  • May require both gas and electrical connections for operation

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6. Continuous Flow Hot Water Systems

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Continuous flow hot water systems, also known as instantaneous or tankless water heaters, provide hot water on demand without storing it in a tank. These gas-powered systems heat water instantly as it passes through the unit, delivering a constant supply of hot water whenever needed.

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These systems operate through a relatively simple process: when a hot water tap is opened, a flow sensor detects the water movement and signals the system to activate. Cold water passes through a heat exchanger, where a gas burner rapidly heats it to the preset temperature. Once the water reaches the desired temperature, it's delivered directly to the tap. When the hot water tap is closed, the system automatically shuts down, conserving energy when hot water isn't needed.

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The average lifespan of continuous flow gas hot water systems typically ranges from 15 to 20 years, which is significantly longer than conventional storage tank systems. Some premium models with proper maintenance can last 20+ years, making them one of the most durable water heating options available. Their extended lifespan is largely due to the absence of a storage tank, which eliminates issues like tank corrosion that commonly lead to system failure.

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Continuous flow gas systems avoid storage-tank heat losses. Compare the exact model’s declared performance and applicable gas industry label under equivalent test conditions; a category-wide UEF, star range or percentage saving is not a household estimate.

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The cost of installing a continuous flow gas hot water system includes the unit itself and installation work, which varies depending on complexity. Running costs depend on hot water demand, system efficiency, gas prices and any supply charges. Annual maintenance costs are relatively low for professional servicing, which should include checking gas connections and cleaning heat exchangers.

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Pros:

  • Endless supply of hot water without the limitations of a tank
  • More energy-efficient than storage systems due to elimination of standby heat loss
  • Compact wall-mounted design that saves valuable space
  • Longer lifespan than conventional storage systems
  • Running costs depend on demand, the selected model and current fuel prices
  • Precise temperature control for consistent hot water delivery

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Cons:

  • Higher upfront cost compared to basic storage systems
  • May require upgrading gas lines for adequate gas flow
  • Potential "cold water sandwich" effect between uses
  • Output can be limited during periods of high simultaneous demand
  • Slightly longer wait time for hot water to reach distant fixtures
  • Requires both gas and electrical connections for operation

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7. Instantaneous Hot Water Heaters

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Instantaneous gas water heaters heat water on demand without a storage tank. The term overlaps with tankless and continuous flow; the selected model’s rated capacity determines whether it can serve a single outlet or multiple demands.

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When hot water flows through an instantaneous gas unit, its controls activate a burner to heat water through a heat exchanger. Compare the model’s rated output and installation requirements for the intended outlets rather than inferring capacity from the words instantaneous or continuous flow.

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The average lifespan of gas instantaneous hot water heaters is approximately 15-20 years with proper maintenance. These systems often last longer than storage tank models because they don't suffer from tank corrosion issues and have fewer moving parts that can fail. Models with high-quality heat exchangers made from stainless steel or copper typically offer the longest service life.

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Instantaneous, continuous flow and tankless are overlapping terms for on-demand water heating. Compare each model’s capacity and energy performance directly; the name does not establish a star rating, UEF, percentage saving or lower efficiency than another on-demand model.

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The cost of installing an instantaneous gas hot water system includes the unit itself and installation work. System size affects both upfront cost and per-liter hot water costs. Professional servicing includes checking gas connections and cleaning the heat exchanger of any mineral buildup.

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Pros:

  • Compact size ideal for space-constrained installations
  • Lower upfront cost compared to larger continuous flow systems
  • Energy-efficient operation with no standby heat loss
  • Point-of-use installation reduces water wastage waiting for hot water
  • Available with either pilot light or electronic ignition options
  • Simple installation process compared to whole-house systems

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Cons:

  • Limited flow rates typically between 10-16 liters per minute
  • Can only service one or two outlets effectively at a time
  • Not suitable for households with high simultaneous hot water demands
  • May struggle with temperature stability during fluctuating water pressure
  • Typically requires annual maintenance to prevent scaling in heat exchanger
  • Shorter warranty periods compared to premium continuous flow models

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How to choose the best Gas hot water system type

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When selecting a gas hot water system, the decision should be based on your specific needs, considering both residential and commercial applications, as well as numerous practical factors.

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Residential applications typically have intermittent hot water demands with peak usage in mornings and evenings. For most households, a continuous flow system with a capacity of 20-26 liters per minute provides sufficient hot water for multiple simultaneous uses. Compare energy use and emissions for the selected model, household demand and electricity or gas supply; a gas system is not automatically lower-emission than an electric alternative.

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Commercial applications require systems that can handle sustained high-volume hot water demands. Commercial-grade continuous flow systems offer higher flow rates and can be installed in banks (multiple units working together) to meet extensive hot water needs. For restaurants, hotels or gyms, compare the exact models using sustained hot water demand, available fuel supply and declared performance.

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  • Small households (1-2 people): An instantaneous or small continuous flow system (16-20L/min) is typically sufficient. Check the selected model’s capacity against the household’s simultaneous hot water demand, and estimate running costs using current tariffs. Compare suitable tank capacity, on-demand flow capacity and current energy tariffs for the household.
  • Medium households (3-4 people): A medium-capacity continuous flow system (20-26L/min) or a condensing model offers the best balance of performance and efficiency. These systems can handle multiple simultaneous hot water demands such as a shower running while the dishwasher is operating with capacities around 26L per minute being suitable for medium to large households.
  • Large households (5+ people): For homes with high hot water demands, either a high-capacity continuous flow system (26-32L/min) or multiple continuous flow units working together are recommended. Alternatively, a larger storage tank system (170L+) might be necessary if multiple bathrooms are frequently used simultaneously.

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Installation costs vary significantly based on the system type:

  • Storage tank systems: Simpler installation requirements if replacing an existing tank
  • Continuous flow systems: Installation costs can be higher if gas line upgrades are needed
  • Condensing systems: Installation costs reflect the condensing technology
  • Instantaneous systems: Costs reflect their use in point-of-use applications

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Space requirements should factor heavily in your decision:

  • Continuous flow and instantaneous systems are wall-mounted and take minimal space, making them ideal for apartments or homes with limited installation areas
  • Storage tank systems require significant floor space and adequate clearance for maintenance
  • Condensing systems are slightly larger than standard continuous flow models due to the secondary heat exchanger

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Lifespan and durability vary by system type:

  • Storage tank systems typically last 10-15 years
  • Continuous flow and condensing systems generally last 15-20 years
  • Instantaneous systems typically last 15-20 years
  • Higher-quality stainless steel heat exchangers significantly extend system lifespan compared to copper heat exchangers

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For the best long-term investment, continuous flow models can last more than 20 years, which is approximately twice as long as traditional storage tank systems. This extended lifespan, coupled with their energy efficiency and space-saving design, makes them the preferred choice for most modern Australian homes despite the higher initial investment.

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By carefully weighing these factors against your specific needs, budget constraints, and installation limitations, you can select the gas hot water system that will provide the most effective and economical hot water solution for your home or business.

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What are the hot water system types?

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Hot water systems can be categorized based on their energy source and how they function. Here's a breakdown of the main types of hot water sytems:

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Based on energy source:

  • Gas: Uses natural gas or LPG to heat water
  • Electric: Uses electricity to power heating elements
  • Solar: Harnesses solar energy through roof-mounted collectors
  • Heat Pump: Uses electricity to extract heat from surrounding air

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Based on function:

  • Storage/Tank Systems: Heat and store water in an insulated tank
  • Continuous Flow/Instantaneous Systems: Heat water on demand without storage
  • Heat Exchange Systems: Transfer heat from one medium to another
  • Combination Systems: Hybrid systems that use multiple energy sources or functions

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The combination of energy source and function creates various hot water system options. For example, you can have a gas storage tank system, an electric continuous flow system, a solar storage system with gas boosting, or a heat pump storage system.

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What affects storage tank gas water heater costs?

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Storage tank gas water heater costs include the unit itself and installation.

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They're more affordable for several reasons:

  • Simpler technology: Storage tanks use basic heating principles without complex electronics or multiple heat exchangers
  • Established manufacturing processes: These systems have been produced for decades, lowering production costs
  • Straightforward installation: Installation is typically less complex than continuous flow systems, requiring fewer modifications to existing plumbing and gas lines
  • Lower material costs: They don't require the specialized components found in condensing or continuous flow systems

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However, it's important to note that while storage tank systems have the lowest initial cost, they may end up being more expensive in the long run due to:

  • Higher energy consumption due to standby heat loss
  • Shorter average lifespan of 10-15 years (versus 15-20+ for continuous flow)
  • Limited hot water supply that may require oversizing for larger households
  • Higher ongoing maintenance costs over the system's lifetime

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For those on a tight budget, a storage tank gas system offers the most affordable entry point into gas hot water, but those looking for better long-term value might consider the higher initial investment of a continuous flow or condensing system.

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What affects condensing gas hot water system costs?

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Condensing gas hot water systems with solar boosting combine advanced condensing technology with solar energy capture, which affects equipment and installation costs.

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Condensing systems alone (without solar components) are already at the high end of gas water heater costs. The addition of solar collectors and associated components further increases both equipment and installation costs. These hybrid systems are expensive due to their complex dual heat exchange design, high-grade materials like stainless steel heat exchangers, sophisticated electronic controls, and the specialized installation expertise required.

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Compare the installed quote with the system’s expected energy use, solar contribution, boosting and current gas prices. No generic combined system has a guaranteed lowest running cost or payback period.

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What Are the Energy Efficiency Ratings for different gas Hot Water Systems type?

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Australian gas water heaters may carry an industry-run energy label; it is distinct from the government Energy Rating Label used on some other appliances. UEF is a US test metric and should not be treated as an Australian star scale or a simple burner conversion-efficiency percentage. Compare the exact product’s data and test method.

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Energy efficiency ratings by system type:

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Storage Tank Gas Water Heaters

  • Model performance: Check the exact model’s applicable gas industry label
  • Model performance: Use the manufacturer’s declared performance and identified test method
  • Model performance: Compare declared performance for the actual models under equivalent test conditions
  • Standby heat loss through tank walls reduces overall efficiency
  • Annual gas use: Estimate from model performance, storage losses and household hot water demand

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Non-Condensing Continuous Flow Gas Water Heaters

  • Model performance: Check the exact model’s applicable gas industry label
  • Performance: Use the manufacturer’s declared performance and identified test method
  • No standby losses as water is only heated when needed
  • Model performance: Gas input rate and total annual gas use are different; compare both for the selected model
  • Annual gas use: Estimate using the selected model and household demand

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Condensing Continuous Flow Gas Water Heaters

  • Model performance: Check the exact model’s applicable gas industry label
  • Model performance: Use declared performance under an identified test method
  • Secondary heat exchanger captures waste heat from exhaust gases
  • Model performance: Compare the actual models under equivalent test conditions
  • Annual gas use: Estimate using the selected model and household demand

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Instantaneous Point-of-Use Gas Water Heaters

  • Model performance: Check the exact model’s applicable gas industry label
  • Performance: Use the manufacturer’s declared performance and identified test method
  • Model performance: Size alone does not establish energy efficiency
  • Model performance: Include any pilot-light or electrical standby use specified for the model
  • Annual gas consumption varies widely based on point-of-use application

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Hybrid Gas-Solar Hot Water Systems

  • Model performance: Check the exact system configuration and relevant performance data
  • Model performance: Include the gas booster, solar contribution and any electrical consumption
  • Model performance: Solar contribution depends on the collector design, sunlight and household demand
  • Gas booster activates only when solar heating is insufficient
  • Annual gas use: Estimate from model performance, solar contribution and booster demand

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Use the selected model’s declared energy data and the test method shown with it. Where a gas industry label is provided, compare like-for-like models and remember that test consumption is not a forecast of the household’s bill.

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